Tucker Carlson's war against Woke Capital and the future of the Right

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Well, well. Everybody predicted that 2019 would be an eventful year, with Trump realizing he must start to build the wall if he wants to be reelected; Cold War 2 against China heating up, and the trade war doing some serious damage to the Chinese economy, and China's slowdown dragging down the world economy in exchange. It's gonna be bad, but it's not gonna be boring.

And just after we welcomed the new year, this video by Fox News' Tucker Carlson came out and has owned the attention of political media for more than a week now. And for good reason: it's good. Well, he’s usually good, but this time he was something more than good. He stated very clearly what the right half of his country wants, what got Trump elected. And he made it very clear to the media, think tanks and the wider propaganda apparatus of the Republican party what they must do to survive. They must go to war with libertarianism. To war with Woke Capital.

The cuckservative media went immediately in panic. Ross Douthat on the NYT, who, besides being the physical incarnation of being a cuck, is a pretty good writer, made a good summary here.

As we all know, the political left, born out of the chaos of the French Revolution, came of age when Karl Marx produced a working formula: class struggle. You go find the low status people in your country, tell them the world is divided in two sorts of people: them, and the guys on top of them. The guys on top are oppressors, the guys on the bottom are oppressed: if you, the oppressed follow me, we’ll turn the table, “liberate you” i.e. grab their stuff and their status and give it to you.

Then after WW2 the Western left realized that the oppressor/oppressed template worked much better with groups disadvantaged biologically than with mere social class. Hence we got Bioleninism. The industrial worker who was so much into socialism could after all become a manager, or start his own company and not be so interested in socialism anymore. Happened all the time. That’s not a good deal if you’re a leftist politician. You want your underlings to stick around and be loyal, and the underclass doesn’t feel so oppressed if there’s not an underclass anymore. Of course, you can change class (in modern Western societies), but you can’t change biology. The average racial minority, the sexual deviant, the mentally ill, the fat cat lady, those will always be low status, always feel oppressed. That’s firm, absolute loyalty right there.

Ever since the Left found out this trick, the ball has been on the Right’s camp. How do you deal with Bioleninism? The only workable strategy was formulated by Steve Sailer decades ago: if the Left is the Coalition of the Fringes, the Right must be the Party of the Normal. In the US, where demographics mean that the minority-supported Democratic party will by 2025 or so have a rock-solid electoral majority, that meant the Republican Party becoming the party of White people. It’s taken a while, but as the critical date when Texas flips blue approaches, the Republicans have slowly, if somewhat unawares, moved in that direction. Hence, Donald Trump.

Of course the Right has to do a lot of work before that change of direction is complete. The Left is more flexible and responsible to change, because its basic formula is simple. They’re the party of the oppressed. If things change they just need to change the identity of the oppressed, and they’re set. Easy. The Right though, can hardly be the party of the oppressors. At its core, sociologically, the Right is the party of the people who wanna be left alone. That’s not a very exciting way of running a political movement, though, so they must always come up with random reasons to justify their attachment to the status quo. The usual are traditional religion, which is useful as it doesn’t need to be justified, and has centuries of history fighting the Left, long a force for atheism. There’s also nationalism, to the extent it is allowed to exist post-WW2, which tends to be the refuge of secular, masculine people who dislike the Left’s push for egalitarianism.

And of course, capitalism. When the Left was primarily about economic socialism, about state-control of the economy, the Right had a very strong Schelling Point in free-market ideology. Opposing socialism made for good politics for non-leftist people, it has a ready source of funding from business owners. And it just makes a lot of sense. Socialism is a very stupid economic policy, which produces poverty. And nobody likes poverty, least of all the poor. So the political Right in much of the Western world, and even out of it, became mostly a coalition of religious people, nationalists, and business owners. God, Country and Capital. 

This kinda worked for a while; but it was never very stable. And most importantly, it was never very strong. Of those three parts of the coalition, the religious have the actual numbers. In America, by far, in Europe it’s a closer contest with the nationalists, but I’d say the religious still have a small edge. At any rate, the ones with the money, funding the whole thing was the business owners. Capital. And money talks. Capital was funding and basically running the political right for a long time; and completely so since the Thatcher-Reagan revolution where they took over the whole movement with force, and took over the governments of much of the Western world for quite some time.

What came out of the increasing influence of Capital in the political right was this weird intellectual movement called “libertarianism”. Libertarianism is a completely American phenomenon; in Europe it has appeared somewhat in the last 10 years, but it’s still completely marginal, and for a long time it was completely non-existent. In the US, though, libertarianism is quite big. Not in numbers, of course, but it is very influential in the economics departments of American academia and, as an extension of that, as economic advisors for the political Right. The DC think tanks and all that crowd. It would be an exaggeration to say that all Republican politicians in the US are libertarians, but they are very influential in those circles, and their academic prestige is quite high.

Libertarianism strikes me as an escapist strategy. Democracy was founded in the idea of frequent changes in government. We have a team of guys running the state; if they stop doing a good job, you change them. Most places developed a two-party system, around a left-right axis, which disagreed more or less on how to do things; but the point is change is built into the system. So everybody has an incentive to play the game, and try to be there when the next change happens.

But at some point, somebody discovered that this theory was crap. Power doesn’t work that way. Governments don’t work that way, fundamentally. You can’t change everything all the time, the incentives are just too big for people in power to find a way of keeping power amongst themselves. Like most important discoveries, different people across the world realized, independently, that alternation in power was absolutely not what happens in democracies at all; that most resorts of power are occupied by permanent bureaucrats, and that the different parties which prima facie compete for power, eventually find ways of helping each other achieve a stable sharing of power and money. The first to make a solid theory on how this works were the Italian elite theorists, Pareto, Mosca and Michels.

Libertarianism is what you do when you realize that the government is socialist by definition. Socialism being the control of the economy by the government, well, yes, odds are the government is going to want to control the economy. So if you don’t trust the government to respect your interests, then you go libertarian. You do that because you are a business person and have an actual reason to want the government to get away from your business. Or you do that if you are opposed to the government for other reasons, say cultural reasons, and just want to signal your distrust of the government. Libertarianism came from both sides of that. Not by coincidence, much of libertarianism came of the American South after the Civil Rights movement. US Southerners realized the US Federal Government wanted to destroy their culture; and many of them became free market fundamentalists as a way to oppose that. That again connects with the 3-way coalition of religious, nationalists and capitalists that has formed the Political Right for decades.

Well, Tucker’s speech basically said this alliance was over. The alliance of God, Country and Capital has achieved some electoral victories over the decades, but it has failed miserably at the only important task: the Culture War, influencing the behavior of the people so that they form stable and moral families. The Left has destroyed traditional culture bit by bit, and neither Nixon, nor Reagan, nor Bush, nor anyone, has been able to do stop it even by an inch. And why is that? Has God failed us? Do the people not love their Country? No, it’s the other guys. Capital has betrayed us. The libertarians have been playing a double game, and they are now pretty much the enemy. They haven’t just surrendered, or been neutralized. Capital today is perhaps the biggest force of the Left. They’re the biggest enemy.

Tucker Carlson makes his argument much better in this video where he is interviewed by Charlie Kirk, one of those classical cuckservatism propaganda guys, doing both the evangelical and the libertarian thing. It goes without saying that Tucker completely destroys him, and he has fun doing it. Understandably given what a complete tool this Kirk guy is. Do watch the whole video. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybYvAZqo0KA

Of course not all the video is good. The first 10 minutes are actually a very disappointing collection of cuckservative platitudes, where he talks how the increased insanity of Leftist activists is a sign of “fear” on their side. That they’re “losing control”. What is Tucker smoking? The Left is losing control? Of what? They can put transexuals on kindergartens. They have 10 year old boys in drag on national TV. They have successfully derailed pretty much everything that the elected president of the USA Donald Trump has tried to do for 2 years: a point which he makes himself all the time. Yes, sure, Donald Trump is actually president, and he confirmed two justices for the Supreme Court. But the Left is in complete control in pretty much everything they care for. Most importantly, the Left has the demographic advantage. They control the votes of every single Bioleninist constituency, and they are all growing. Single women? Growing. Gays and assorted sexual deviants? (can we call them GASD?) growing. Ethnic minorities? Growing. White Americans just posted the lowest fertility rate in history. It won’t be long until the Hispanic population of Texas grows to the point where the state votes Democrat, and then the Democratic Party will have a permanent electoral majority.

So no, they aren’t losing control. They aren’t “terrified”. Well, maybe they are, but that’s besides the point. When Stalin launched his purges in the 1930 Soviet Union, he was quite terrified of losing control. That’s indeed why he launched the purges. Which were wildly successful, killed a million people, displaced tens of millions, and made him a dictator for life. So yes, besides the point. The cuckservative idea seems to be that the utter defeat of the Right in the Culture War is a sign of some sort of demon-induced “insanity”, and that through a few exhortations to calm down given by DC aristocrats (like, say, Tucker Carlson) everybody will calm down and we’ll be back to the 1950s like nothing ever happened. 

“When you are standing on principle, and when you truly believe you’re right (…) that you’ll be proving right at some point; you don’t need to get mad (…) you can softly chuckle, and you can persist in the face of all the threats, in saying what you think is true, if you really believe it is. If everybody did that, this crap will end tomorrow.”

No, Tucker, no. I’m sorry, that’s not how it works. The current-year Leftist insanity is not a sign of anything, it’s just the logical progression of the Culture War, which the Left has won, utterly, and is now engaging in mop-up operations, gearing up the insanity just to gloat, to show off the power they have. Which they have, and we don’t. You can’t just tell people to “believe”, i.e. to have “faith”, and everything bad will go away. It won’t. When people oppose the left, they lose their jobs, they lose their friends, they lose everything. Sure, if everybody made a stand, and you had 100 million people in the streets, that would be something. But you don’t have 100 million people. You have at most 80. You have 200 million white Americans, of which taking out gays and single women and weirdos and nerds and snobs and cowards, you have at most 80 million people who oppose the left Out of a country of 330 million. So no, let’s not play the numbers game. 

And the Right isn’t even right. The Right doesn’t have a coherent theory of how things work, “consistent with thousands of years of human experience” as he puts it. The Left does: it has Marxism-Leninism, the old template of oppressors and the oppressed, now applied to biological groups. That may be wrong, quite bogus really, but it’s simple, and it works at the job it has to do: building a political coalition. Meanwhile the Right, which prides itself in caring about reality more than politics, can’t even agree on the reality of Human Biodiversity! No, Tucker, no. What we need is not just faith and courage. We need something more. We need smart politics.

But he knows that, and he elaborates that very well in the next part of the talk, where he puts forward his political platform. Tucker Carlson’s political platform is not about Freedom. Or God. Or Improving the world. He makes a much narrow commitment, which sounds strange for the absolute obviousness of its desirability.

—-The goal [of government] is to have an economy which makes it possible for normal, average young people to marry and have kids.

“Period, that’s it”. Yes. That’s exactly it. That’s the one thing that all human societies since the beginning of time. Hell, that’s the one thing that all apes, all social animals are able to achieve. But modern liberal society is incapable of doing. You could rephrase this in more scientific terms to make it even more obvious.

 The goal of human society is to have a normal biological cycle of reproduction.

The genius of this is that in order to achieve this utterly obvious, minimal goal of existence, you’d have to completely dismantle liberal society from its foundation. And you could do that without hard feelings, without hate, without outright enmity towards liberalism. Nothing personal here, we’re just optimizing the government in order to achieve a normal biological cycle of reproduction.

Tucker then goes on explaining why he places the focus on government in the economy, not in cultural values per se. He says that the reason why young people can’t get married and have kids early is because of economic reasons, not cultural values, as the Right has been saying for decades. This is an important point. This is the most important point. This is everything. 

Everyone, from rat-voice Ben Shapiro to Cuckold General David French has come out against Tucker and his suggestion that economic policy may have something to do family formation being unaffordable in the only cities in the world where good jobs are available. It’s all about culture, they say. If people just pulled themselves up by their bootstraps and read Shapiro’s or Jordan Peterson’s latest book, they’d be able to be productive enough to get a high-flying job in a big city and afford their their USD 5k a month rent.

Now, it is certainly true that many of our ancestors used to have lots of children, up to 5 or 6 children per woman, while being much poorer than we are. It is also true that other people, say Africans, have way more children than we do while being much poorer than we are. So sure, cultural values are more of a factor than economic factors are.

But it’s also true that economic policy is orders of magnitude easier to change than cultural values. It may be that people today are spoiled consumerist drones who think they are entitled to living the Sex in the City lifestyle, and even then won’t have much children anyway. That may be right. But it is also the case that economic activity is increasingly concentrated in a few global centers all across the world, and that people who don’t get access to those are increasingly depressed, with an epidemic of suicide by opioid abuse killing thousands of people a year.

The way that cuckservative pundits with their double libertarian-religious shtick (see Kirk and his “Proud Capitalist, Saved by Jesus” line) think of present economic trends reminds me of my friends back home who argue for the legalization of drugs. “People should have freedom”, they say. “Drugs are no worse than alcohol”, they say.

Alcohol is actually a great example. Obviously alcoholism is a big problem in some parts of the worlds, but oddly not everywhere. In many parts of Southern Europe, alcoholism barely exists at all, while in Northern Europe is quite serious. And with peoples like US Amerindians (“Native Americans”) or Australian Aborigenes, alcohol causes severe physical and mental problems to pretty much every single one of them. “Liquid fire” some call it, for how it wastes them.

The only explanation for this fact is that humans in societies with a long history of agriculture have developed genetic adaptations to digest alcohol, while people with shorter histories of agriculture have not. This doesn’t mean that people slowly developed an adaptation while merrily drinking their wine. No, that means that every single alcoholic in France or Italy who couldn’t hold their liquor died, while the few (at the beginning *very* few) who didn’t become addicted were able to survive and leave descendants. I have no idea what percentage of the population of early farmers in Southern Europe had to die in order for widespread adaptation to wine to spread, but given how Amerindians hold their liquor, it may have been in the order of 80%.

Legalizing drugs would start the process all over again. Sure, some people can get high on coke or meth and still be productive. The vast majority can’t. If we legalized coke and meth, we would be basically killing off the 80% of the population who would get addicted and waste away. Is that a reasonable price to pay for “liberty”? 

The same applies to our present economic system. At this moment, every single human population with an IQ over 95 has a fertility rate below replacement; and the places where the most intelligent and productive people tend to live, big cities, have generally fertility rates below 1. Not below 2, replacement, but below 1, half of replacement. As I’ve said again and again, big cities today are IQ shredders, where the genes that code for high intelligence go to get shredded in the corporate and bureaucratic rat-race, depriving humanity of the biological building blocks for a better future.

Why? Because some people are making money out of it. Who? The same people who fund the likes of Kirk, Shapiro, and the vast libertarian and associated free-market pundit ecosystem. Why are these guys on the Right at all? Says Tucker Carlson. And he’s right. It’s time they left. The cucks, cry, though “you can’t do this! Capitalists are our allies against Socialism and the Left”.

No. They aren’t. Not anymore. Capitalists were indeed mostly in the Right side of the Culture wars for many decades. But not anymore. Libertarianism was a rational strategy to signal one’s complete rejection of the state and the Cathedral and its associated cultural ideology; because the state wanted Socialism. It still wants it, of course. But not so hard, the Left has long reached an agreement with Capital, through which Neoliberalism lets Capital make some money in exchange of Capital going Woke. Woke Capital is a real thing now. It took decades of brainwashing and back-rubbing and cross marriage and outright coercion, but in 2019, the vast majority of capitalists, of investors, of bankers, of corporate executives, even down to the average middle manager, are now culturally leftist. They are Woke. If you don’t believe me, go read this guy for a couple hours.

And as Tucker mentions, in an age of technological revolution, in an age where Facebook, Amazon and Google (FAG) have more capability than any state bureaucracy, these guys are dangerous. And these guys aren’t in our side. They are completely sincerely Leftist. On average the tech population may be even more leftist than your average bureaucratic agency. Google is particularly crazy.

If Capital is now Woke, if the Left has successfully captured the capitalists, why should the Right be nice to them? Because muh-free markets? That was a means, not an end. The goal of the Right is, again…

The goal [of government] is to have an economy which makes it possible for normal, average young people to marry and have kids.

Or in other words, to ensure a future for our children. There’s another version out there in 14 words.

If it takes import tariffs to achieve this? Let’s have them. If it takes higher taxes for some industries or people, let’s have it. If it takes strict anti-monopoly laws, or even the outright nationalization of some companies, Let’s have that. If it takes strict controls on the media, let’s have those too. Whatever it takes. Liberty is a means, not an end.

The problem of means and ends, of process and goals, is of course an old one and a very hard one when you need to coordinate millions of people and keep them focused and loyal. An important point there is the careful use of language. When people speak of Capitalism it can mean a million things. You can have completely unrestricted markets or 90% tax rates, and they’ll both be Capitalism, because the only thing that the word Capitalism means is “not Socialism”, and the actual referents of those two words depend a lot on whether the Soviet Union still exists. National Socialism was less socialist than most capitalist countries today.

See that Tucker is careful to say he's still a proud Capitalist, even though he'd probably crush most capitalists that live today. At least he sounds like he would. At any rate, using the same words as the Right has for decades is good rhetoric: you do want to signal continuity to the people you want to support you. And besides, Socialism *is* bad for you. Everything else equal, economic freedom does create economic growth. Which is why any good plan to crackdown on Woke Capital must be phrased in a way that blames big Capital of socialist policies, and promises to bring economic freedom to the middle classes and small business owners. That was also Trump's rhetoric, Salvini's rhetoric, and the rhetoric of every single successful right winger in a long time.

What the Right needs to do now is to reflect on how the Left was able to capture Capital and turn it into its most lucrative constituency. Any successful country needs a business community, and the capture of the West's by the Bioleninist left has been so unexpected that still many people refuse to believe it. But happened it has, whether by political coercion, infiltration, or just mere cultural prestige. We better think carefully on what happened, how to reverse it, and use the same tools for our own cause.

Robert Sykes

I was beginning to wonder if you would ever post again. But the wait was worth it. The alternative to Marxism/Leninism is some sort of Fascism. The emphasis changes from the working class, supposedly inherently one and internationalist, to the race. Mussolini defined race broadly as the whole Italian people, including various minorities. But Italians had been mixing genetically and culturally for a few thousand years, and German Lombards and Sicilian Greeks could identify as Italian despite their ethnic and remaining cultural differences. Hitler's definition was narrower. Only Aryans, Indo-Europeans, counted; Semites and Slavs be damned. Both Fascism and Naziism provided basic human services like medical care, pensions, education, etc. (So did Bismarck's German Empire.) And both Fascism and Naziism were popular mass movements, with indigenous versions of the Italian and German political parties existing in almost all European countries, including Britain, France, Hungary, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Romania, and Spain, to name a few. The embarrassment of actual Nazis, sympathetic to Hitler, in the British and Dutch royal families was successfully papered over after the war. The current government in Ukraine is supported by an indigenous Nazi movement that has its roots in WW II. Our current American Ruling Class, which is becoming hereditary, is globalist/internationalist/cosmopolitan and deracinated. They are the sworn blood enemy of the White American working and middle classes. What Tucker dances around is that White people, the historical founders of American government, institutions and culture, and still the racial majority, need someone to represent them, their race, and their interests, and the interests of their children (the 14 words). This is especially true since the politics of the multicultural, multiethnic American empire is now overtly racial and sexual. Trump is a harbinger. Lurking somewhere out there is the real thing. For now, the American Duce/Fuhrer is shamed into silence by the cuckservatives, libertarians, communists, et al., but the inherent attraction of fascism to an oppressed majority will eventually call him forth. It will not be pretty. European fascism (and communism) was not pretty. The Republic will not survive his coming. Glad I'm old.

Mycroft Jones

Easy. Abolish corporations. It is not that the Left captured Capital. Capital saw the advantages of the Corporation, and Corporations funded the Left as a weapon in inter-corporate warfare. Corporations care about quarterlies, not about human reproduction. They have to go. They are inhuman and encourage evil by removing accountability and transparency.

Dave

Brilliant. You see clearly. Avoiding denial is painful, and necessary if there’s to be any hope of survival. Your point about our metropolitan IQ shredders is obvious and bodes very ill indeed for our future. Even if reversed immediately, which is of course a fantasy, the damage is done.

Gabriel M

Libertarianism is the the normal way out of Leftism because it accepts the basic premise of Leftism (people are equal) and draws conclusions that are radically different from any form of Leftism that has been practiced int the last 100 years. It's possible to be the most extreme Libertarian possible, to disagree with every single policy advocated by the Left in Year X and still not trespass on a single core tenet of Leftism. As such, most people who have interesting opinions will have passed through a phase when they were a libertarian. This creates a lot of counter-libertarian signalling by people keen to prove how over it they are. This is very easy to do because libertarianism is so stupid. However, there's a danger that you go too far and start denying economic reality. Tariffs may be worth the cost but they have a cost and only by recognizing why they have a cost can you design a tariff regime that minimizes the costs while maximizing whatever it is you want to achieve (and, even better, try to make as much of the costs as possible fall on people you don't like and want to suffer).

Gabriel M

But happened it has, whether by political coercion, infiltration, or just mere cultural prestige. We better think carefully on what happened, how to reverse it, and use the same tools for our own cause. Is the Hestia society still going? Because that's what you need. High functioning people who feel no particular need to publicize their opinions because they have a social network where they can sound off whenever they fell like it, are absolutely committed to Rightist ideology, can work their way up the corporate ladder, and use their influence whenever necessary in discrete ways. The way the Right is actually set up is the opposite: people trying to maximize their status by taking the most based position as publicly as possible, ostracizing as many people as possible for being less based than them and generally making a spectacle of themselves.

Scott

What's the way out of this, short of a demagogue? I don't see any happy endings here. Not that I require happy endings, they are certainly not guaranteed.

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Samuel Skinner
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Robert Sykes

Fascism doesn't work. https://voxeu.org/sites/default/files/image/FromApr2012/vandenbroucke fig1 20 aug.png Mussolini failed to stop the decline in birth rates and Hitler didn't manage to reverse the damage of the Weimer Republic.

Samuel Skinner
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Scott

There is no way out of existence. If you mean the death spiral, the solution is the same as every other time it has happened in human history. Leftism is a strategy to seize power which means the solution involves someone gaining power and arresting, torturing and executing all their competitors. Of course US military effectiveness could completely collapse and we get chaos. Or a nuclear war could break out. Or the collapse of science and bacteria getting used to our drugs could allow new plagues to break out.

iI
  1. _Well, well. Everybody predicted that 2019 would be an eventful year_. This reminds me I once read in China they will say "May eventful times be waiting for you" when they wish you ill. 2) In Southern Europe, people are much less of drinkers. You see it within skngle countries. North Portugal and North Italy people have a glass of wine after meals, whilst they don't in the South. It has to do with the climate, with cooler places having the most alcohol-prone people because it gave a good feeling against the coolness (think Russia). 3) Dope is already legalized in fact — there is nobody who wants to buy it and cannot due to its being under ban. A lot of "top people" have to do with the drug market, also, and profit from keeping it a banned market. That's why you don't see any agit-prop to promote "liberalization" about dope. (Although cool and trend-marrying folks surely are for liberalization about dope: fact is, it's the people at the top's wishes that are enacted; the trend-loving snobs have the pleasant impression it's being theirs to get enacted only insofar as they align with the top guys' interests amd "beliefes". Which is why they usually align theirs by the way.) 4) In Europe, "libertarians" called themselves "liberals" for some 150 years. Liberal didn't mean leftist, it meant pro-freedom and pro small. government. I have no knowledge why the names changed meaning overseas, and of course now that it's in the USA that what a word means is set young pro small-government and pro individual freedom people in Europe have started to call their orientation liberalist. Anyway, whatever you call it, average people feel so threatened by the consequences of true freedom that it (liberalism-libertarianism) is destined to ever revulse them (all liberals/libertarians are strongly for meritocracy in the job market, for instanfe); it will always be a niche thing, out of the economic field. Take education. The average concern is that no Child is Allowed Ahead. No Child Left Behind is how it is rationalized. 4) _Facebook, Amazon and Google (FAG) have more capability than any state bureaucracy, these guys are dangerous. And these guys aren’t in our side. They are completely sincerely Leftist. On average the tech population may be even more leftist than your average bureaucratic agency. Google is particularly crazy._ Don't mistake followers and conformity-aides, however influential, with originators and motors and idea-makers. \[img\] http://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/TheoryEverything2.jpg\[/img\]. _If it takes import tariffs to achieve this? Let’s have them. If it takes higher taxes for some industries or people, let’s have it. If it takes strict anti-monopoly laws, or even the outright nationalization of some companies, Let’s have that. If it takes strict controls on the media, let’s have those too. Whatever it takes. Liberty is a means, not an end._ Indeed. Libertarians are neither left nor right, and neither the left or the right is libertarian. It's only natural that cultural elites (the value-designers on the left, and their army of designed values mongers) and economic elites (free marketers, seen as "right") ally with each other. Before the alliance wasn't worked out because the owners denied the value designers/peddlers their cake share. The mistake was dearly paid by the former, with constant genuine anti-capitalism permeating many spots and minds. Both parties eventually woke to the copiousness of the mutual fruits of an alliance. The natural alliance is that between who understands and knows, against the others (as it is presently). _But happened it has, whether by political coercion, infiltration, or just mere cultural prestige. We better think carefully on what happened, how to reverse it, and use the same tools for our own cause._ It can't be reversed, outside of the way to reverse it Moldbug propounded, for the reasons Moldbug expounded. I bet Tucker's gonna mention monarchy next time, lol.

iI
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iI

The link doesn't work. It is to the USA power map in Chibo's Political Science’s “Theory of Everything” on the 2016 US Election article for who wants to reach it through a search.

Steve Johnson

Fantastic post - I want to flesh out this point:

But at some point, somebody discovered that this theory was crap. Power doesn’t work that way. Governments don’t work that way, fundamentally. You can’t change everything all the time, the incentives are just too big for people in power to find a way of keeping power amongst themselves. Like most important discoveries, different people across the world realized, independently, that alternation in power was absolutely not what happens in democracies at all; that most resorts of power are occupied by permanent bureaucrats, and that the different parties which prima facie compete for power, eventually find ways of helping each other achieve a stable sharing of power and money.

In the United States we had the spoils system - someone would win an office and fire all the old guy's cronies and replace them with his cronies. Everyone noticed that (for the most part) this was a disaster for the usual reason - they acted like mobile bandits. Andrew Jackson replaced a bunch of civil servants and competent postmasters with cronies and supporters - some apparently considered this a problem that needed to be fixed (maybe people liked reliable mail service?). James Garfield's assassinated by a disgruntled (and mentally ill) man who thought himself entitled to a patronage position was the excuse for creating a civil service that was protected from political firings. Because the system was new it had to offer some kind of advantage so people would accept it and so civil servants were hired based on exams. Of course once the system had wiped out potential competitors it could dispense with the inconvenient exams. In the long run flipping and exchanging power was unstable and eventually the bureaucracy beat the politicians in public opinion and so got permanent power.

Harmony Pax

The socially conservative, fiscally liberal thing is an entrenched part of urban politics in America, as well as rural politics in China. The people who vote for these systems are corrupt, vicious, thugs. It was historically called machine politics, and many blacks and Catholics vote this way in America, because they're conservative Democrats. I grew up in a place in America where cops make 100K and lab scientists make 40-50K. I grew up dissed in school, for being poor, ugly, and having no connections. I saw what we had to do, and I saw what they had to do. They drank and smoked weed to a 100K job, we crammed math all day to a 40K job. My neighborhood has less than a 10% university graduation rate. Yet they drive gleaming, souped up cars and wear the latest brand names because of family connections. People can't have kids? People in my area regularly have between 4 to 6 kids and we're a city. And it's not just immigrants. This includes white Catholics and Evangelicals. I live in a "big blue city" where religious whites, Hasidic Jews, and black social conservatives, are a huge and stupid cornerstone of the Democratic coalition.

Nick B. Steves
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Gabriel M

I cannot confirm or deny that Hestia is still going, but those interested in quiet networking in pursuit of total victory should get in touch.

Jakeithus

About 10 years ago I remember having an online discussion in which I made the comment that "Given the nature of Government, I'm happy to use Business to attack the power of Government in service of the Individual/Family. If Business is harming the individual/family however, then we on the Right would be stupid to not use Government to attack the power of Business in order to further what should be our primary goal of free and healthy individuals and families". The number and strength of the conservatives who found this very idea unthinkable honestly surprised me at the time. It seemed pretty straightforward that Business does not always work in our best interests, despite the fact that I appreciate they often can be the best ally we have against an overreaching State. Apparently this was controversial at the time, and unfortunately still is, although things seem to be moving in a positive direction in terms of what your typical conservative thinks. Things can change quickly once a mass of those on the right realize Business is no longer our ally, although I worry the realization will come too late give the demographic factors in play.

Anon

Drop the G from GASD because it's redundant, I could actually imagine ASD used in fiction. It would be easily quotable and elicit the same reaction as degenerates, but without beating around the bush. It already stands for something, but associating homosexuality with autism would make it seem less desirable.

Samuel Skinner
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iI

The problem with freedom is that without someone looting the public purse in order to enrich themselves there is no one who is paid to prevent a group of people from occupying that role. It is a bit like advocating for the elimination of the military because it is a useless cost. That is true, but then the cops realize there is no one who can stop them and declare they are in charge.

Giovanni Dannato

Another great take, Mr. Spandrell. However, you could audition as the Dos Equis most pessimistic man in the world. Remember your article series on the demise of the Song Dynasty? A mere 1000 Jurchens toppled a wealthy Empire of millions and they were but a prelude to the Mongols. All the money in the world can't pay one man to die and that is its fundamental limitation. A core premise of neo-reaction is that numbers are not decisive. After all, most of the Latin American world is still ruled by a European elite class. True, the establishment is still immensely powerful, but what we should focus on is its relative decline. They are now a pale shadow compared to what they were in the 90s, an overwhelming triumph of angels at the end of history flying on with clarion calls into an eternal horizon of progress with flights of rosy-cheeked cherubs laying down laurel wreathes on their heads. Whatever powers and intimidation they may still have, they are no longer glorious. Don't judge the game board by extrapolating from its present state. Imagine further than that.

WMBriggs

Coincidentally, excerpts of an 1871 essay by Robert Lewis Dabney were circulating today, in which he said (among other things), "it has now become a regular trick of American demagogues in power to manufacture new classes of voters to sustain them in office. It is presumed that the gratitude of the newly enfranchised will be sufficient to make them vote the ticket of their benefactors. But as gratitude is a very flimsy sort of fabric among Radicals, and soon worn threadbare, such a reliance only lasts a short time, and requires to be speedily replaced. " He saw it all coming almost 150 years ago. https://www.covenanter.org/reformed/2016/5/22/womens-rights-women

rtsukazaki

I agree with basically everything in this post. But I think you may be overemphasizing economics. This: “...sure, cultural values are more of a factor than economic factors are. But it’s also true that economic policy is orders of magnitude easier to change than cultural values.” Feels like a bit of a cop-out to me. Sure, the big-city, high-rent, dual-income, 50 hour work week lifestyle is horribly unconducive to child rearing. So is the physical environment of cities themselves. And so is the no-prospects hollowed-out small town life. But here in my neck of the woods of peripheral Japan, land is practically free. You can rent a two-story, three bedroom house for under 600 USD month, or buy one for under 250k. (Hell, if you are willing to live in an older house a little out of the way, you can get a large house for the price of a new car.) Food is cheap, school is free. The streets are safe, the air is clean, there’s room to run. Frankly I literally can hardly imagine a better place to raise children. Jobs don't pay very well, but everyone seems to be able to afford a car and big screen TV regardless. Unemployment is very low. Yet the fertility rate in this prefecture is a majestic 1.5. Look at any thread on reddit relating to having children. It’s not full of people who want large families but can’t afford it. It’s split between 30 year olds who “probably want kids someday” and people who are physically repulsed by the idea of reproducing. Lack of solid middle class jobs is bad. Big city crowding is very bad. People’s thoughts and attitudes towards family formation are catastrophic. By rights my prefecture ought to be absolutely packed with young families. I don’t think the reason it’s not can be fixed by a ministry of trade or central bank. “The goal [of government] is to have an economy which makes it possible for normal, average young people to marry and have kids.” In my opinion the word “economy” here needs to be switched out for something else. Most government actions that might be tried to solve the spiritual problem would effectively be limits on free market capitalism, to the extent that all human activity is in some way economic. And Woke Capital is now so powerful that any attempt to change moral attitudes would necessarily involve taking on big corporations. Ban porn and the sex industry (those trucks that drive around advertising high paying jobs for young women at kyabakura fill me with rage). Counter the Woke Capital impulse to get women in the work force. Do something about predatory student loans on educations that will never pay off. Stop letting Twitter and Google promote antisocial views while banning prosocial ones. And so on. But the focus would ultimately be more on the moral sphere than tariffs and trust busting.