The Intelligence Question

Spandrell

So my last post on Nassim Taleb's mental retardation has triggered quite a lot of laughs and chuckles, and also some criticism. Some people say I was not rigorous enough when writing about Nassim Taleb's books.

To those people I say: hold my beer. Seriously, people, this is a blog. A free blog, which I write under a pseudonym. I seek nothing from my writing, besides it being an avenue to make interesting friends. Which I have, dozens of them, and God bless them. But surely in this little place of mine which I offer free of charge, I'm entitled to shit on people for fun once in a while, especially if they've given good reason, as Taleb did by saying the most retarded thing that anyone can say: that black overpopulation is not a problem because they'll turn out just as smart as the Germanic tribes did in post-Roman Europe.

That' s not just retarded, that's the most harmful and dangerous thing that you can say, period. The most dire danger to Western Civilization, to our lands, to our families, to our friends, to everything we hold dear, is the demographic replacement of Western populations by immigrants from Africa and the Middle East. Taleb is saying that's not a problem! Well, fuck Taleb, fuck his books, his goatee, his accent. Fuck his deadlift, his insecurity about his racial background, and everything about him. And fuck you.

And besides, this kind of pedantic arguments about "oh you didn't spend weeks reading his book to understand the math", or concern trolling about the effects on group morale of criticizing a man who (to his credit, which I had always given before this week) at least makes a point of looking and sounding like a real man and not a soy-infused mangina, reveal you are the kind of person that Taleb hates. Taleb is a middle-eastern man who, by sheer biology, just can't stand North-Western European nerds. And to be honest I can relate to that. So at any rate, don't be a nerd and defend Taleb with nerdy, over-rigorous arguments. I don't care, and he hates your guts.

Going back to the gist of Taleb's argument, all he said was a bunch of wrong and disingenuous arguments about the importance of IQ (you can read a good summary here) , all done for the sole purpose of signaling his long dislike of nerds. And again, I can relate. There's much to dislike about nerds. They are often annoying, and their lack of skill at enjoying the many pleasures of life is *very* harmful for many of us who just want to have a pleasant life and not live a life of drudgery at work. Let alone the harm that nerds do at showering thots and assorted single women with heaps of attention and money. Yes, nerds are bad. If Taleb had just said if he were King he'd randomly kill 5 nerds every fortnight just to make a point, I'd probably have retweeted that with implied approval.

But that's not what he said. He went on a long obfuscating tirade about IQ being pseudoscience. And yes, IQ fetishism, the idea that IQ is all that ever matters, is weird and wrong, and mostly a vehicle for nerds who have nothing besides IQ going on for them, to feel good about themselves. But so what? Are nerds and their small attempts at mutually licking their wounds and achieving some tiny amount of self-esteem a serious problem for our world?

No, not even close. The real problem in our world is that high-IQ people, not just nerds, but just basically everybody half-functional, is failing to produce children, leaving a huge demographic vacuum which greedy business-owners and evil politicians are using to import dumb and hostile foreigners into our lands. *That* is the problem. And in our modern world, where the rights of ethnic peoples to their own homelands on purely ethnic and historical grounds is not accepted (because Nazis), in our modern scientistic modern world where the only acceptable public arguments must be written in the form of formal science, the only effective, true, empirically provable, and most importantly, legal argument to oppose the influx of millions of dumb and hostile immigrants into our lands, is the biological basis of IQ, and the different distribution of IQ between racial groups.

I wish it weren't so. I wish the French could just say that France belongs to them and their posterity because they freaking say so, and everyone else will be expelled or killed. I wish White Americans could say they colonized and developed the continent, so it belongs to them, period. Talking about IQ is just a roundabout way of saying that dumb and hostile foreigners don't belong to our countries. It has the obvious pitfall that East Asians are even higher-IQ than Whites, and yet nobody wants 100 million Chinese to immigrate to their countries.

Yes, it would be much better if we had solid measures of not only intelligence, but creativity, integrity, decisiveness, leadership abilities, and whatnot. If we had, we'd surely find out that different ethnic groups have different distributions of every trait. We could even use them to define the national character of many countries, and perhaps plausibly use that definition to set a psychological legal standard for the demographics a country wants to maintain. Perhaps we'll get there some day. But we're not there yet.

All we have is IQ, which individually tells you indeed very little about how useful a man is going to be for a particular task, but when averaged over populations tells you if a place is a shithole full of dumb people, or it's a civilized and mildly pleasant place. IQ does an *exceptional* job at predicting that. Japan is nice. Denmark is nice. Morocco is not nice. Black Africa is awful. You may not like China, but it's orders of magnitude more pleasant to live in than India.

So again, I understand all the criticisms about IQ itself, or about IQ-fetishism, or about nerds in general. I get it. I really do. My IQ is nothing special, I'm no nerd, I do my deadlifts myself. But that's completely besides the point. The fight right now is for every civilized country to defend itself and its people. It's a tough fight, and right now we're losing it. Nerds are part of my people. Taleb, and the Africans he is so "sensitive" abut are not. A time will come to de-emphasize the importance of IQ and all that. But now it's not that time.

Samuel Skinner

"where the rights of ethnic peoples to their own homelands on purely ethnic and historical grounds is not accepted (because Nazis)," Unless they are Vietnamese. Or Kurds. Or whatever flavor of the months is useful for the lefts interests. I'm not sure using IQ arguments are any freer of 'because Nazis'; not like the Nazis believed in respecting ethnic and historic homelands after all. That said, it is useful since it shows who is our enemies and is trying to kill us. If we survive, lets us know what countries to reduce to rubble and colonize.

lhtness

Average IQ works pretty well for predicting how well a country is doing, but the most obvious exception isn't present day China. It's present-day North Korea.

Samuel Skinner
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lhtness

It does accurately predict North Korea has low crime and violence.

Spandrell
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lhtness

I say China because it's my speciality and it tends to elicit mixed reactions from my readership.

lalit

China was not a more pleasant place to live that India all the way from Antiquity to 1000 A.D., When the successful Islamic invasions began (They had been invading without success between 668AD and 1000 AD). In fact, it was not more pleasant place to live than India between 1947 and 1991. Some other measure than IQ is required to explain why China does better. That reason is Islam. Let 15% ethnic Chinese convert to Islam overnight and it will turn into India in a decade. As will Japan, as will Korea, as will Northern Europe as will the Anglosphere. You don't need different races. Islam will do the Job. There is no need to use a convoluted measures like IQ to explain India's backwardness when a simple, precise accurate measure like Islam will do.

Spandrell
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lalit

Nah.

lalit
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Spandrell

Hahaha! My answer to that would be, YAH! The IQ scores go up after prosperity hits. Prosperity causes higher IQ scores, not the reverse. You've got cause and effect mixed up. And as for Islam, what more can I say over what has already been said?

iTheCathedral

Hey, I am a nerd, and if more shared my attitude, females would be paragons of humbleness rectitude and objectivity. Being scorned and brushed off when doing otherwise would select for that behaviour. 90% of men do flattery races soon as a 'gina is on sight — let' s not lay the blame for this on nerds. And no-one's as beta as the Very Masculine guy when he's under her charm — Christs how they morph into the men they used to mock till short earlier. I did it too before, but then as Chandler wrote, All men are the same After the eight one all women are the same too. **** I think mainstream culture elects a subject into relevance — and centrality — out of a will to follow the course that subject indicates. First the horse, second the cart. First the will to say "This is our country because we can keep it and we want to", then the scientific, sociologic, economic, and what you have, arguments to back that up (and justify laws attuned to the people's mood): no longer censored, or made-up if needed (it makes no difference). I don't know... I think factual arguments are just decorative. The thrust is how many charismatic figures, and figureheads, join a cause. They'll be followed, whatever they say (or almost). See Molyneux: he can say things that would get less charismatic types booed, and strongly motivate quite a number of people, who all of a sudden don't shudder any more talking about what they wouldn't dare without his lead. Molyneux's focus is on energising and rallying betas though. Smart (and/or evil, to quote you) prophets unite. At least they make a show of uniting. **** Surprised to see you so open-minded on IQ. All I see are people believing it's a tell-all about the mind, and cheeky denialists. IQ tells your neural machine's engine's horsepower. It can still be an all-wheel or rear-drive or front-drive car, a sedan or a cabrio,... and so on. And it has your ego sitting at the wheel. Also, most times you don't get to select the roads. But on the average, all other things sorta level out and you're left with average IQ. Things like humanities and art bring into the picture traits like open-mindedness (mind-wandering), neuroticism and so on, but as long as it is about engineering, making money, keeping the streets clean and the trains on time, IQ is almost a tell-all.

grey enlightenment
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lalit

iq is a necessary but possibly still insufficient condition

Spandrell
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iTheCathedral

The nerds who read me are the cool nerds.

lalit
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grey enlightenment

It appears that IQ is what you get after becoming prosperous, much like Good Looks. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3834612/ So it appears that IQ does not cause an advanced civilization. It is more like an advanced civilization causes it's people to have high IQ.

Spandrell
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lalit

Nope. Look at Brunei, look at the Gulf Arabs. Sorry to break this to you, but intelligence is genetic.

parallaxoptics
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Spandrell

Amen.

Issac

Well put, fellow white person.

joshuadelamere
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Spandrell

The nerds who read you know where the gym and the clitoris are.

grey enlightenment
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lalit

it's genetic; blacks lag whites and Asians on even the least possibly culturally biased IQ tests despite modernity and good nutrition All the Flynn Effect means is IQ rise to their biological limt.

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lalit
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Spandrell

No one is contesting the genetics of intelligence. What is being contested is whether IQ measures intelligence at all. And whether high IQ is what leads to prosperity and civilization. As for Islam, Islam becomes a problem for sure where it is a significant minority and causes a low level civil war between muslims and non muslims. Brunei and Gulf Arab states are 100% muslim and hence no low level state of civil war between religions. 100% Muslim is far better than 80% non-muslim and 20% muslim while 100% non muslim is the best.

Duke of Qin
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grey enlightenment

To repeat what I wrote at Karlin's High IQ is essential, it serves as the foundation, without it, you won’t get anywhere. The other half is norm adherence. You can call it trust, but it more accurately it should be the established norms that the community is willing to universally accept that lowers social transaction costs. Some people are naturally norm abiding. Some people are not. Some states set up social systems which norm transgression is ruthlessly and efficiently punished. Some states do not. A naturally norm abiding people like the Scandinavians or the Japanese will sheepishly follow community norms no matter what irrespective of external stimuli. Other peoples, like the Russians, the Chinese, and to a degree even the Anglo-Saxons are not norm abiding by default and defections are common. So the defect/defect equilibrium comes into play lowering overall welfare. The English got around this behavior with stringent enforcement of laws and low level social control via feudalism. Russian and Chinese institutions are more patchy in enforcement. Anarcho-Tyranny rather than actual tyranny, thus defections are more common. Shang Yang said it best 2500 years ago, we need brutal enforcement.

info

@Spandrell Fertility is Eugenic on the Male Side and Dysgenic on the Female side: /https://atavisionary.com/career-women-are-dysgenic/ What's your thoughts on this fact?