The Wars of the Sexes

Spandrell

What do Bronze Age Pervert and Brett Kavanaugh have in common?

https://twitter.com/bronzeagemantis/status/1044336637801615360

Not a lot. One is a nudist bodybuilder, a tropical Nietzsche who wants to burn the cities and reduce women to breeding stock. The other is a pasty Irish Catholic Yale graduate who was pretty much a virgin until his marriage at age 40, and to this day can't help crying like a girl when referring to the women "friends" during his life who gave him the slightest amount of attention.

Imagine these two guys in the same room. Would they get along? I don't think so. And yet here we are, in this strange world where not only BAP, but millions of people in and outside the internet defending this Irish cuck and his all-female team of legal clerks. So what’s going on?

Let’s talk about the Women Question (WQ). The WQ is the realization among a few select men of intelligence that female emancipation has been a complete and utter disaster for civilization. What started rather innocently with giving limited economic rights to women (having a bank account, inheriting property) has spiraled in less than two centuries into a full fledged war of the sexes, making life miserable for hundreds of millions. And most importantly, depressing the birth rate of the most valuable people on earth.

It used to be that genes for better strength and health, for higher intelligence, for physical beauty, made you leave more offspring, while the unfortunate carriers of genes that made you unhealthy, ugly or stupid were unable to reproduce themselves. Well not anymore. The best people on earth today are all, thanks to the open sexual market of all against all (the extension du domain de la lutte of Houellebecq’s first novel) brought by female emancipation, squeezing themselves into big global cities, competing for status in a non-stop rat race which makes family formation impossible. They thus fail to have babies to inherit their precious genes, wasting them into these massive IQ shredders which dominate the modern world. I called them IQ shredders as IQ is the most pressing concern (no IQ no electricity, folks), but it’s really shredding all the genes of excellence that mother nature has spent millennia making for us.

This is not exactly a race thing, as it’s genes for excellence themselves which are being wasted in the global status rat race. It’s not just Indians or Africans outbreeding Whites. It’s the worst blacks and the worst Indians outbreeding the best of their kind. The first ethnic group to literally go extinct due to feminism won’t be any European people: it would be the Parsis, long the highest-performing ethnic group in the whole of India. They are actually going extinct because their women would rather take PhDs than make babies. And they do that because women don’t actually like most men. Women are wired to like the top 10-20% of men, “top” meaning bigger, stronger and more violent. It’s how it works in most mammals, you can’t argue with 500 million years of evolution. Hate the game, not the player.

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If you think this doesn’t concern you, you’re wrong. The whole Western world is slowly morphing into having the demographics of Brazil, roughly half white, half black. But Brazil itself is shedding its best people. The next step there is South Africa, 10% white. But again we know what’s going on with South Africa and their planned dispossession of its white population. You know what comes after South Africa? The endgame is Haiti. If feminism isn’t stopped and reversed, the whole world will be Worldwide Haiti (WWH). Now think of that.

So what do we do? Opposition to feminism has a long history, but as feminism advanced from demanding equal rights to achieving effective supremacy, more and more men are noticing what’s going on, and are growing apprehensive at the dispossession of the male sex and the likely coming of Worldwide Haiti. I see four kinds of reaction to late-stage feminism.

  1. Play the game. When playing a game in hard mode, some people quit. Some people take the challenge and master it. In the sexual game, they learn Game. Seduction techniques. Become an alpha, what women want. You read [Heartiste](http://heartiste.wordpress.com/), go on learning how to pick up women. Pump and dump. It’s a risky game to play, but rewards are high. If the man is so inclined it might lead to a successful taming of a woman and the production of good children. In other cases it leans to decadence and long-term misery. It’s not an ideal solution, in that it doesn’t quite solve feminism, and in fact provokes women into further escalating their demands for supremacy in order to rein down on men. Remember, women don’t want “good men”. They went the statistical “best men”. They just want the top 20% alphas. Faking an alpha is a short terms solution that only leads women to recalibrate their algorithms to come up with a new 20%. But hey, as pointless as it often is, as a man I can only respect the man who takes up the challenge and beats the game in hard mode. Now I don’t know how to call this strategy. I could just call it the BAP strategy. Or the Mishima strategy. Maybe call it Retreat, Regroup and Entice. Strategic Withdrawal. Or Sexual Cannae. Perhaps the best name would be the Mannerbund Strategy. Ever since the Industrial Revolution broke the equilibrium of the sexes in the civilized world, and brought men into the cities and into wage labor, plenty of people have deplored the effect this had on men, becoming effeminate and weak. Amusingly many of those who complained have been homosexual, as the leaders of the German Wandervogel in 19th century, or Mishima in 1960s Japan, or Jack Donovan in present America. This makes sense; homosexuals like real, strong men, even more so than women do, give their higher sex drive. While Bioleninism has been taking care of homosexuals of late, in a purely sexual way, homosexuals are the biggest victims of the dispossession of men and state-mandated effeminacy since the 1800s.

Of course not all of the strategic withdrawalists have been homosexuals; Nietzsche obviously comes to mind. At any rate, their idea is that men should recover their masculinity, go back not to pre-industrial times, but to the heyday of manhood, the culture where were not only in charge, their were heroic, and even beautiful. Ancient Greece. The Greeks just didn’t saw much of a point in women, for them men were just perfect, got things done, were fun to be with, and were beautiful to see even. Women were annoying and not even that good looking. So what Greek fans argued is that, if women are gaining power and annoying men, men should withdraw, live together, form mannerbunds and do their own manly things. Have fun and stop caring about women at all.

That’s fine and all. And in the 1920s and 30s, these male aesthetes were in some way responsible for the uber-manly fascist movements in Europe. The Nazis, and especially their armed forces, the SA, were full of crypto-homos such as Ernst Röhm. And they carried the day; Europe was this close to fall into communist horror, and it was only the handsome paramilitary armies of the post-Wandervogel boys that saved Western Europe from communism. So cheers to them. Homos saved Europe from communism once because they found mass rallies of armed muscular men arousing. And… then they were purged, with long knives. Cheers to that too.

While mannerbunds sound like real fun, they’re not quite clear on how that solves the feminism problem. Well yes, Mannerbunds are different from omega MGTOWs in that the latter are invisible to women anyway, but the former, by the sheer size and hardness of their abdominal muscles, have a way of making women crazy

But still, getting women horny doesn’t solve the issue of producing quality babies if you don’t actually go through the trouble of impregnating them. Which you can’t in any civilized country, not if you want to stay in the mannerbund, given women’s legal power to enforce serfdom to the genetic father of any of her babies.

While I sympathize with the idea, and hope history remembers me as the man who provided the theoretical justification for destroying IQ shredders and salting the land, for better or worse, we don’t live in the Bronze Age anymore, and omegas married to their pillows are likely to be more useful at Razing the Cities through their knowledge of programming or nuclear engineering than Mannerbund Aesthetes with expertise in ancient art history.

The question remains, though: what can we do? How do we prevent Worldwide Haiti? Bring back the patriarchy? A subset of strategy 1, marriage, is trying to recreate a patriarchy inside an isolated society. A well known example is the Benedict Option, by religious-shopper Rod Dreher. The idea is that people should isolate from mainstream progressive society and try to pull a medieval Benedictine hill monastery kind of trick, and do their own thing in blessed isolation. A long but insightful review of the book by veteran blogger Handle can be found here

The Benedict Option is a really misleading naming for what should have been plainly called “The Amish strategy”. Because that’s what you need to keep your women in control. The Amish have a patriarchy alright. They even get progressive journos sent to document how evil and patriarchal they are. But they are left alone, for some reason. Doesn’t mean any neo-Amish movement starting from scratch would be. And that’s assuming any woman born in our feminist supremacist society would actually join in. The Amish are already there, after all, and nobody’s joining them.

The patriarchy only evolved in places where the local ecology made necessary the hard labor of men for survival. Places where women couldn’t feed themselves. Places with cold winters. Places where you needed granaries to store food for the winter, and men to guard those granaries from enemy peoples. In those places men got to rule, because what were women going to do anyway? They would starve and freeze without a man.

And so a system was set where every single women was subject to a man, either her husband or her father. Sexual access to women (and her labor, which was often quite useful at home) required a lifelong contract, or else. Now some patriarchies allowed polygamy. Europe didn’t. But the general point that women were subject to men was respected; and that was what kept most men with skin in the game, willing to contribute their productive labor to society at large.

That was just a function of the economy. There’s plenty of places where women can feed themselves without men. Warm, tropical places. You don’t have patriarchies in those places, unless a northern tribe conquered them and kept it by cultural inertia. You never get a matriarchy, women are never physically strong enough nor organized enough to rule over men. But you do get matrilineal and matrilocal societies: places where women do their thing, feed themselves, fuck who they want, and interact with men mostly on the women’s terms. The Chinese call one of these matrilineal hill tribes as having 走婚, walking marriage. Because the women live all with their womenfolk, sex happens when a man walk to the woman’s house, screws her, and then leaves. The kid belongs to the mother’s house, the couple can break at each other’s whim (though there’ll plenty of nagging and gossip in the village), and the guy may or may not feed the child depending on how much of an asshole he is. He usually is.

That's how society worked in much of Africa and Southeast Asia; women lived in their own villages, fed themselves. Men live with other men, have their cool mannerbund where they dress up and decorate themselves and work out and fight a lot, come and go to women's villages now and then to exchange food and sex. Of course it's not that easy going; it's heavily ritualized with festivals and ceremonies and so on, and sex pairings are supposed to be exclusive unless something goes wrong. The [late Henry Harpending had a great writedown](http://the10000yearexplosion.com/human-cultural-diversity/">had a hilarious write down) of this sort of societies, and how men and women relate to each other in the absence of a pressing need for marriage, as in winter societies.

That’s where we’re moving now. That’s the sort of society that arises when women can feed themselves. Of course our societies today are much worse than that. During the transition to a female-centered society, women want to have it both ways: they want the freedom of a tropical society, but they also want the amenities of a patriarchal civilized society. Every day they see their standard of living dropping as men refuse to marry them and pay for women’s lifestyles, women nag and cry about how evil men are. Well, that’s how it works. You can get to chase Chad to your heart’s content. You already do, and it’s been a thing in tropical societies for tens of thousands of years. But what you don’t get is to chase Chad and get Dad to pay for it.

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Matrilineal societies have reasonable fertility rates, even today, so the total collapse of sex relations in modern civilized societies is probably more a function of the slow motion breakdown of the patriarchy and women knowing they’re screwed either way, than just a function of female choice. Women do like babies. They just want to have yours. And they want to travel too. And have a career. Aah! I can’ even.

Can we go back to a patriarchy? We could. I guess the Mannerbund proponents envision a small army growing steadily, first a dozen kids, then one hundred, then one million, then revolting, razing the cities, conquering the world. That would work.

Absent that, though, capitalism is here to stay, female labor is 90% bullshit but still 10% useful. Most importantly, food is cheap. Women can feed themselves either way. They didn’t like the patriarchy, they won’t go back without force; force that men just don’t have the organizational power to apply. The alphas are having a lot of fun, after all. A solution would be to flank the female army and come up with some technological innovation that made frontal engagement unnecesary. Embryo selection and CRISPR could again, in a few decades, produce quality babies without having to fix sex relations. Artificial wombs could make Brave New World a reality. Worldwide Haiti could be avoided, good babies produced and neither men nor women would have to cope with lifelong marriage, which let’s be honest, 80% of men nor women don’t really enjoy.

That’s assuming that advanced civilization stays in a more or less stable way. In that case the  breakdown is here to stay. If some big fat SHTF moment happens, if there’s widespread collapse, then all bets are off. An old school patriarchy would have the upper hand there. But it would have to be solid, have a strong religion behind it. A new religion, perhaps.

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R Tsukazaki

"The best people on earth today are all, thanks to the open sexual market of all against all (the extension du domain de la lutte of Houellebecq’s first novel) brought by female emancipation, squeezing themselves into big global cities, competing for status in a non-stop rat race which makes family formation impossible." The problem you describe is one of my top concerns. The way you phrase it suggests that this happened because of female emancipation. But as you later suggested, it seems likely that female emancipation happened because women can now feed themselves. In other words, the problem is intrinsic to modernity and technological society. Is an urban post-industrial patriarchy even possible? Could there be Amish who live in the city? Slatestarcodex's NRX "takedown" posited that traditional morality is an adaptation to traditional ways of life - that is, a hungry and hardscrabble existence - and modern morality an adaptation to modern ways of life - that is, limitless plenty. Of course he failed to notice that modern morality is deeply maladaptive in the ways you describe, but I'm not sure he's wrong in principle. So I think a post like this which suggests the Benedict option, the mannerbund option, and the "new religion" option really also ought to consider the Kaczynski option.

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Inquiring Mind

What is "pretty much a virgin" anyway? Second or third base? First is where a woman consents to kissing a man? Has anyone ever explained second or third? Does second or third count as Catholic chastity during courtship? He didn't claim virginity on his wedding night either, so I guess he needs to explain that one to his priest? I think he claimed virginity well into his adult life, however, to explain that he was not "that guy." I heard some grumblings from chaste Catholics that he has "over sharing", but it may have been a brilliant tactical admission, however. ' Just like no woman other than Michelle has come forward about Barry, and even there, claims are made that Barry's kids were fathered by, who was it, Bill Ayers, Valerie Jarret's hubby, or was it Web Hubbell, can't keep any of this straight, no GF has asserted this isn't true about Justice K?

Dividualist

>taking your assets and your children Don't have assets. This really helps. Rent a comfortable home, but don't own anything beyond a few months, maybe a year of of survival funds. Don't push yourself to work too hard and above all don't consider something like a life insurance. A wife's perspective entirely changes if, at divorce, she has no house or large bank account to her name, just a rented flat / condo that the man will maybe keep paying for, maybe not. I trust my wife but at the end of the day dangling cabbage in front of a goat is not that wise if you don't want the goat to eat it. It is better to not tempt people. My wife knows perfectly well that the likely outcome of a divorce, even including child support, still means renting a flat about one size smaller than our current common one. Of course it is not the primary thing holding our marriage together, but helps. If you are earning so much that you can't help saving or else you would have to buy really stupid things, start working less.

Dividualist
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Dividualist

Also, don't live in a jurisdiction where child support is based on "imputed" instead of actual income. One more thing my wife knows is that I have played with the idea of spending 6-12 months on the government's dole, getting my own tax money back, while writing a book. Getting 20% of that as child support would be no fun for her. She knows I won't do this as long as she behaves, but if she would decide to give up on the marriage promise I could easily decide to give up on my role to be the breadwinner and then she would have problems. So basically my advice is don't be TOO good at that kind of trad breadwinner role. There is a a middle road between the poolside PUA and the entirely dedicated family father. The road of the easy-does-it husband and father who does have a decent job but does not work too hard, who does provide comfort to the family but no security in his absence in the form of wealth, who knows and communicates that as long as the welfare state exists any man can decide to drop out of work (for a while) because the child will not starve, and in general just taking your responsibilities about half as seriously as in the olden times. This requires no alpha traits at all, as I think I have very little, it is just strategically applying laziness one perhaps already has. And yet it works like Dread Game.

Toddy Cat

"if there’s widespread collapse, then all bets are off." If we don't manage to split this country peacefully, I have a sneaking feeling that all bets are going to be off...

Spandrell
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R Tsukazaki

The thing about the Kaczynski - Luddite option is that you can't do that unless all your neighbors do it at the same time. Which you can't force them to. It's like the "city states are the best form of government thing". Sure, until you're Venice and the Grand Armeé of Napoleon mobilizes an army sized 3 times your whole population and invades you. Competition works all ways.

Spandrell
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Inquiring Mind

Just making the point that he wasn't a ladies man.

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Dividualist

Agreed 100%. But it's not applicable for some people.

Parson

“They didn’t like the patriarchy,“ and “neither men nor women would have to cope with lifelong marriage, which let’s be honest, 80% of men nor women don’t really enjoy.” I think this is quite misleading, women didn’t like the patriarchy in the same children don’t like being told no by their parents, they eventually outgrow their resent me and realize it was for their benefit and development. Plus women are pretty miserable these days at an absurdly young age, chicks I know that are a few years older, just 25 are basically still obsessed with their college days when hundreds of guys wanted to fuck them and now only a few guys they think are beneath them are, they never properly developed into adult women. Marriage seems miserable now but I don’t think it’s about the union of two people, it’s more about the pointlessness of most people’s lives, how you’re supposed to follow these old rituals that don’t have much belief behind them anymore but we act out out of habit. Then you have maybe a kid or two or none at all and just work shitty jobs, eat shitty, food, watch shitty tv until health problems begin at age 45. They have no community in their lives, no family nearby and lost all their friends along the way. A western woman would be miserable in the segregated village life you describe

aidanmaclear

Hit the nail on the head as usual. One thing you left unmentioned is that women have been subject to sex selection for a very long time under patriarchy. They've evolved in concert with it, and secretly yearn for the hand of a strong man telling them what to do. That's why they seek out replacements in the big cities: demanding work schedules, calendars booked with endless phaggy hobbies, big bossy dogs that she can't say no to or train properly, etc. Women will shit test, but at the end of the day what they like and want is to be dominated in the sack, to be told what to do (some gentler, some harsher) and to have their lives planned for them. You mention the 'Amish option', but I'm acquainted with some Amish on a personal level and their girls and women are very, very happy. The Mannerbund that forsakes women will be full of homosexuals because the whole point of forming a war-band of big, manly, vicious dudes is to either protect the women you already have or go break some heads and take some other tribe's women. The latter isn't feasible considering that the state still has a monopoly on violence, so we need to focus on the former. Which means, duh, that you need women first. Then you form a cadre of like-minded dudes. Then you settle on an old strong religion. Then you have a community, and a community by its very nature will attract men and women from outside. And such a community can gain and consolidate political power. In terms of your options, it goes Game, Mannerbund, Benedict. Although the 'monastic' existence is not retreat. It's more like what the Orthodox J's are doing in NY, a vigorous expansion and fight for influence. As I've said before, institutions and communities are only formed to protect the good that is obtained organically. The first step is to dominate a woman, to make her yours, body and soul, and create a little bubble of patriarchy; a community of two, and then more, when you have kids. Only then will any larger community have traction. I have a friend who recently became a father, and he told me that his first instinct, when his kid came screaming into the world, was to buy a property and a bunch of guns far away from the degenerate city. Only among men who feel this, acutely and overridingly, can there be community and reactionary solidarity.

Henry Sulla (@american_sulla)

As dreary as it sounds, perhaps the best way to re-install the patriarchy in the West is if we all convert to Islam.

aidanmaclear
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Dividualist

If you've run your relationship correctly, your woman will consider the prospect of betraying you the way an first mate considers the prospect of mutiny against his Captain. She needs to get the unspoken impression that there will be punishment: swift, merciless, and extralegal, but beholden to the ancient laws. You don't need to beat your woman. Beating a woman is generally a sign of weakness. But she should be a little bit afraid of you nonetheless. And the sex will be incredible. Being a good master of your woman is not easy in today's world, but if you cannot even do that, there's no hope that you can capture and restore a civilization.

Spandrell
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https://spandrell.com/2016/02/the-easy-way-out/

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Parson

I've known traditional peasants in the West and the East, I've known my grandparents generation. I don't know, I don't get the feelings that marriages 100 years ago were that happy. Certainly happier than people today, I'll give you that but not that buoyant either. It's all about the options you have. I assume people will continue to have options for the foreseeable future.

Parson
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aidanmaclear

I agree with everything except that beating a woman is a sign of weakness, I think that might be the case with the modern men you hear about but in principle it’s not weakness. I smack my dogs ass when he does something out of line, not every time, much of the time it’s just a scolding, but if you go too long with just an implied threat of violence then the threat loses its power. If your wife embarrasses you in public, the sort of nasty way a woman can do unconsciously (not innocently though) what should be the recourse? I get that modern men need to be really fucking careful with physical stuff but pretend the man can do whatever he wants without police interference.

maieuticinitiate

>Now some patriarchies allowed polygamy. Europe didn’t. Yes they did. The ancient Greek kings had concubinage and so did the Germanics (Ex: Harald Harfager from the Heimskringla) Monogamy is the exception in society, not the norm. It's a circumstantial covenant between the Alphas and Betas of a given society, where the Alphas share the women and the Betas have an incentive to work hard.

maieuticinitiate
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Henry Sulla (@american_sulla)

If we do, the Left will attack Islam for being a white man's religion just as they do with Christianity. So zero benefits, and we would still have to bow to the durka durkas.

Spandrell
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maieuticinitiate

Children of concubines in China were perfectly legitimate and had inheritance rights. Europe was unique in the exclusive status it gave to original wives.