Gender inequality in fertility

I've noticed people don't wanna hear this, but I still gotta say it.

I was doing some light research to follow up on my last post. Stumbled upon this:

JANUARY 2014

Fertility of Turkish migrants

in Germany:

Duration of stay matters

The writing is incredibly bad. Purposefully obfuscating. But the figures are very illuminating. Take a look at this one:

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TFR of German men: 1.27. That's low.

TFR of German women: 1.67. Huh? German women are having 30% more children than German men. With whom?

With someone besides German men, of course. That's how it works.

So now you know why:

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Can't fight Darwin.

[…] Gender inequality in fertility […]

Honor killings exist in most cultures for this reason.

Do they?

The study was done on West German men and women between the ages of 36-55, with the average male respondent being somewhat younger than the average female respondent; and they are slightly ambiguous about how TFR was calculated, saying at one point that they used birth certificates and at another that they used children resident in the household. Whether they used birth certificates or residential data, there is a little problem; a newborn's mother is always known and usually raises him, whereas the father not so much. In either kind of calculation, the "fertility" of women will always be higher than the "fertility" of men, simply because some children are born fatherless or raised by single mothers. But I don't think that is even necessarily the problem; because German men are three years older than German women at the birth of their first child (and presumably, on average, at the births of higher-order children as well), some of the older women in the sample have husbands who were too old to be included in the sample, while some of the younger men in the same have wives who were too young to be included (or haven't settled down yet in the first place). It's also possible that some of the fathers were *East* rather than West German, due to internal mobility, but I suspect the age effects explain most of the effect.

[…] Source: Bloody Shovel […]

Prior to the liberalization process, I would guess they were relatively universal. They're certainly still ubiquitous in Africa, the Near East, and Southern/Central Asia where liberalism has yet to make serious in-roads or was beaten back by a reactionary revival of sorts. The Americas are perhaps the one place I'm not familiar with in this respect but from what I understand of pre-Colonial Amerindian tribes, it would shock me to find out that most of them were not scalping the women who consorted with the Europeans.

That sounds like a pretty sloppy way of doing statistics.

Yes, but to the point of their own family killing them? That sounds like a particular Muslim (and Indian) thing. Never heard of that in Europe or Asia. Young women are so intrinsically valuable that it's kinda hard to find any place where they get really punished.

Wilkommen in dem Geisteswissenshaften

The age effect should apply to Turks too, shouldn’t it? And yet it’s vanishingly small. And it’s not like Germans are the kind of people who fail to recognize their children.

The Turks have a smaller gap in age at first child, and have a correspondingly smaller male/female fertility gap; they also have lower age at first child over all, and in particular are most likely to have their first child immediately after emigrating. (I also suspect Turkettes have lower rates of illegitimacy/divorce, so whichever method of calculating TFR was used would find fewer unwed Turkish mothers, but this isn't actually reported in the study itself; I assume you agree with my hunch, whether or not you think it helps to explain the variance.)

Myanmar/Burma is undergoing such a purge at the moment. As I understand it, apostates from Buddhism to Islam, even women, are fair game. There were also some rather extreme consequences for Vietnamese and Korean gals who didn't go home with their GI after their respective wars. Homogeneous societies don't stay that way by letting half their population slide during a demographic invasion.

The difference could be partly made up by Russian​ or Polish males. Lots of muh based Slavs in Germany. Poles are the second largest foreign group, and other than Turkey and Syria, the top 15 countries of origin for foreign nationals are Eastern and Southern European countries. Check the "foreign Nationals" section here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics\_of\_Germany Turks and Syrians are off-white. Hybrid offspring between them and German women will be Bosnian-tier. Could be a lot worse

I think it would be fair to say that strategy is only available to higher birth-rate groups. As you suggest, the most fecund peoples on earth (Indians, Africans, Semites, etc.) are the most well known for their strict, even fatal, disciplining of female defection. I would also agree with what I presume to be your point: that Europeans are in no position (even setting their own morality and culture aside) to practice anything similar. It would likely destroy their ability to rebound more than it hampered defection given the low rate of reproduction across the board. That being said, I gather from what's transpired historically that the value of defectors and semi-defectors is going to plummet in the near future. Whether it can go negative largely depends on how much pressure is on the Europeans. If there is a reasonable expectation that mixed children will absolutely identify as the other and will take up arms against the natives, it should go without saying that the women who bear them will be considered enemy combatants, even if they are not themselves consciously hostile.

On the topic of Germans; I've always wondered why there seem to be so very little Germans in NRx/DE circles. Max levels of cuck?

It’s also possible that some of the fathers were \*East\* rather than West German, due to internal mobility, but I suspect the age effects explain most of the effect. Unlikely since f. East Germany has a gender disbalance in favor of males (more women have migrated west than men). Other points are very good and more plausible than Heartistean explanations lulzy though they are.

I know exactly the same number of Germans and Dutch in the sphere.

Do I know the German?

He kinda disappeared 2 years ago.

I stand corrected. If f. E. Germany has too many males, I assume f. W. Germany has too many females; that sort of gender imbalance in postwar France, Germany, and Russia led to normalization of mistresses and illegitimate children, has the same thing happened in f. W. Germany? I'm a fan of your work, btw. "Apollo's Ascent" in particular is quite clever.