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Banania was kind enough to link to my last piece on Twatter

Anatoly Karlin piling up just cracks me up. I get Banania doing what he does. He got a million bucks from Andreessen. He wants to sell books. He thinks there's a niche for anti Trump neocons who still hate niggers and feminists. I don't think it's a big niche but he can knock himself out.

Karlin going full gay without even coming out is bizarre tho. He blocked me on my previous twitter account for saying Prosvirnin (RIP) was gay, which is well documented. Then he lost his mind when Putler turned to be... Putler.

Idk. Here's a toast for all the good anons out there who still haven't sold out.

~sorwet

Facefagging that hard, while having 'edgy' opinions, seems to be a substantial red flag. Even with Ol' Moldy, who still owes me a damn Grey Prince of the Nihilist Mirror book.

~fonner-batmul

The type of Putler Karlin wanted Putler to be would have been bad for Russia, in retrospect. Maybe some tweaks here or there, but for now we're living in an ideal Putler timeline if you're an average Russian. The show is not over yet though.

~davdev-hidtul
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~fonner-batmul

Transkarlin is completely out of touch, not only with the life of the average Russian, but also with movements at the front. As for the average Russian, strange to tell, but times have never been better: wages are far outrunning inflation and industry is expanding rapidly. This is really obvious if you actually live here in Russia rather than sit in some moldy GAE rental poasting on twatter all day.

~fonner-batmul
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~davdev-hidtul

That reminds me of something that the Vostok battalion leader Khodakovsky was saying, that he's thankful that the enemy turned out so difficult since it gave an impetus to change not only how everything is organized, but also society, and that a civil society was created. Of course the trick is not to lose the war afterwards. Karlin never really lived in Russia before and when he came there he had a strange accent and only hung around with weirdos, so it's not surprising that he doesn't know what's going on. He may have a better grasp of other societies, but at this point I'm beginning to suspect, not by much.

Hey, you're a scientist in Russia? Do you have any contacts to research universities in Donetsk/Luhansk/Melitopol? Actually, I'll just DM you later probably, but I'm not sure if you use the rest of the Urbit network or just using your ID here.

~davdev-hidtul
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~fonner-batmul

That reminds me of something that the “Vostok battalion leader Khodakovsky was saying, that he's thankful that the enemy turned out so difficult since it gave an impetus to change not only how everything is organized, but also society, and that a civil society was created. Of course the trick is not to lose the war afterwards.”

This is true, and the process is accelerating. At the beginning of the war, most people were in shock and the kremlin propaganda was very incoherent and obnoxious. Since then, decent normal people have become increasingly involved and step by step society is cleaning up. In particular, Russkaya Obschina (organized ortho-bro-ery) has been working with the police to shut down all kinds of degeneracy (sex clubs, for example) and round up misbehaving or illegal immigrants. Also, the Church has become very active at the front, providing humanitarian aid and giving spiritual guidance. I don't know about absolute numbers, but though starting from a very low base, it seems a lot of soldiers have been baptized and catechized.

“Karlin never really lived in Russia before and when he came there he had a strange accent and only hung around with weirdos”

He was into the libnat scene of Prigozhin, who tend toward degeneracy and delusional self-importance. They are more interested in mocking the imperfections of the government to make themselves feel superior than doing the hard and patient work of making compromises to build something better. To be fair, though, the Ordinary Czarism and the Listva booskhop guys do raise money for humanitarian aid and support of some battalions. But they were also extreme Wagner simps so shouldn't feign surprise that the State keeps them on a short leash.

They are also insufferable White Guard LARPers. While the White Guards were obviously preferable to the Reds, it is in fact largely the White Guards who are guilty of enabling the Reds. It was General Alekseev and others who conspired with the libs in the Duma to overthrow the Tsar, and it was General Alekseev personally who (according to Denikin) kept secret the Tsar's revised abdication in favor of his son Aleksey (the original, hasty abdication illegally passing over Aleksey in favor of the Tsar's brother Mikhail).

“Hey, you're a scientist in Russia? Do you have any contacts to research universities in Donetsk/Luhansk/Melitopol?”

No, I don't, and to be honest, there's not a whole lot there. In general, science in Russia and Ukraine is quite centralized in big centers. In Russia, it's mostly Moscow, St. Petersburg, and Novosibirsk (there are some exceptions), while in Ukraine, as far as I understand, it is mostly Kiev and Kharkov.

~fonner-batmul
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~davdev-hidtul

To be fair, there are a lot of Wagner adjacent people who are doing excellent information/humanitarian/societal/war volunteer work such as Admin (Reverse side of the medal RSOTM telegram channel), and also Tatarskiy to a smaller extent. Somebody like Bezsonov (former DNR information minister and now a frequent TV guest / Telegram blogger) and Kirill Fedorov had a lot of respect for Wagner and Russian Empire traditions. But Khodokovsky despised Prigozhin and saw him as dangerous was before the mutiny. He made a few posts where he said he was vindicated in his views right after, because he couldn't help himself, despite often trying to pull his punches. Also he didn't like Strelkov. In the end, Khodakovsky was sort of correct about Shoigu. He is having a lot of trouble firing the bad performers and putting competent people in charge due to office politics. It is happening, but very slowly. But what Prigozhin obviously missed is that Shoigu focused on setting up a system for military production and he succeeded at that. A revolution would nullify all that and result in more casualties down the line. Khodakovsky focused on setting up a similar system to what Prigozhin had in Wagner in Vostok, but on a smaller scale, and pushed religion in all the Donbass battalions because he believes that the country needs to have a more religious system to win. He was marginalized by Pushilin a bit before the SVO started due to politics, but now he's probably a big public figure, and yeah, Orthodoxy is taking off in the armed forces like he wanted.

~davdev-hidtul
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~fonner-batmul

Orthodoxy is indeed taking off in the armed forces, but the civilian side of the government is stubbornly resistant. In China, for example, essentially the only allowed Orthodox churches are hosted by Russian consulates. In Beijing, there is a proper church building on the Embassy grounds (built before the revolution, turned into a garage by the commies, then reconsecrated about twenty years ago), but in Shanghai, although the Consulate has a grand mansion on the water, they make the parish set up and take down the altar in the front room where you would present your documents at a service window. They can't even be bothered to give the parish a permanent closet somewhere in the mansion. This despite the fact that the parish is very international and Orthodox people from all over the world are more or less natural born Russophiles.

There's also been some strange campaign to erase crosses from images of churches in official advertisements. A friend of mine thinks its a psyop to provoke a reaction, but it's still very bizarre.

One way or another, the issue is going to come to a head in the next few years.

~fonner-batmul
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~davdev-hidtul

I remember that crosses thing. I follow the war closely enough by the standards of someone who should not be following it due to not having enough time for other things. The controversy died down a bit after they stopped removing crosses from symbols. The last one was that they removed an orthodox cross and put a plain one on that was very difficult to see on the picture, on some church in a medium sized town, on a coat of arms. There was the usual outcry, but it died down after they showed the picture of the actual church and it corresponded to the coat of arms exactly in shape and proportions, and it just looks smaller on a small picture. Then the redesigns thought better than to fuck with crosses, and the pro-cross side was embarrassed a bit, so it all died out.

Obviously the thinking is that Russia has a huge number of minorities and small religions and you want to not make them left out. That said, the Russian Empire clearly pushed Christianity and you do need a major cohesive element in countries like this. Even Apti Allaudinov, (Kadyrov's head of forces in the war right now) said that Russians need to have more children and be more Orthodox, because apparently this is something that is also good for Chechens. He meant that the main demographic of a multi-national country has to be strong.

~davdev-hidtul
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~fonner-batmul

The крестопад (cross-falling) in fact continues. A recent case was a scale model of the Uspensky Cathedral in Vladimir, made for blind people to be able to “see” it-- but the domes were without crosses:

https://t.me/Andrafanaslive/11660

The whole thing is so absurd psyop does seem the most reasonable explanation.

As for Mohammedans, my impression is that they have more respect for self-confident Christianity than fake and gay multiculturalism.