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Spandrell

Yesterday I wrote that the leftist media (i.e. all of it) can't shut up about the alt-right because they're fascinated for finally having a worthy rival. They see the appeal.

Another possibility is that journalists basically spend all their lives in Twitter, and our Frog-Twitter friends are trolling them so hard that their Dunbar brains are just saturated with alt-right people. And so they react. And react, way beyond the real world importance of them. It's like high-school kids talking all the time about their classmates. Of course they do, it's where they spend their whole lives. But it's all absolutely trivial in hindsight.

Here's some evidence of how journalists work, and why they're brains are basically on drugs with Twitter. This is a passage from David Halberstam's The Best and the Brightest, a 1972 book detailing how the Cathedral back then, the media and the bureaucracy, botched the Vietnam War because they couldn't stop sucking each others' dicks. Basically because everybody wanted to suck JKF's dick.

David Halberstam was a fairly successful journalist, who took a long leave of several years in order to write a book. He writes how hard it was to quit his usual routine as a journalist for the lonely job of writing a book who would only be complete after years of work.

The hardest thing I had to do at the start was to take leave of my byline for the next four years. Ours is a profession built upon the immediacy of reward: We graduate from college, and our peers go off to law school and graduate school and medical school. They have barely started their first-year classes, and our names are bannered across the front pages of the nation’s leading newspapers. They get their medical or law degrees, and start out in their residencies or as the lowest hirelings in a law office, and we are old-timers, covering the statehouse, or on our way to Washington, by now, we believe, the possessors of a well-known brand name. The byline is a replacement for many other things, not the least of them money. If someone ever does a great psychological profile of journalism as a profession, what will be apparent will be the need for gratification—if not instant, then certainly relatively immediate. Reporters take sustenance from their bylines; they are a reflection of who you are, what you do, and why, to an uncommon degree, you exist. It was hard enough to give so much of it up when I went to Harper’s, where I would get only five or six bylines a year. But to go from the world of easy recognition, from the world of the Times and Harper’s, to a world where I might get only one byline in four years, was a great risk. A journalist always wonders: If my byline disappears, have I disappeared as well? My friends, knowing my compulsions, my innate impatience, wondered if I could do it. Would I be able to resist assignments and stay with my project?
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Nulle Terre Sans Seigneur

> But of course fascism sounds good. That’s the whole point of fascism. It’s catnip for civilized men. "Damn, I just got around to reading Maurice Barres, Sergio Panunzio and Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera. These people were visionaries!" There is no fascist tradition worth noting that is still alive. Further still, an American economic nationalist like Bannon being presented as a crypto-Evolian - such tactics will wear out in an age of "alternative media". The best thing the liberals can hope for is an attempt for an ideological renaissance, perhaps a new Rawls. Someone to reinvigorate the think tank-press complex.

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Howard J. Harrison

So, Peggy Noonan is not wrong when she writes of the Alt-Right, "They’re not numerous, they’re only loud"? Born during the late 1960s, I do not remember the revolution of 1968, much less events that preceded it. However, I have been under the vague impression that the revolution of 1968 had been in full swing in New York's Greenwich Village thirty or forty years earlier. The Greenwich Villagers were not numerous, they were only loud. Now, or at any rate until the recent Trumpening, the Greenwich Villagers' ideological heirs control the Western world. In a way, could /pol/ be the new Greenwich Village?

Alfred Woenselaer

I think what the left fears most is that the ideas of NRx & the Alt-Right grant memetic immunity against the most dominant strain of leftism, progressivism. Bannon arguably being the most powerful alt-right brahmin in the world, the left better be scared. But what else is the alt-right selling? If it's fascism, its a pretty shitty sale. Whenever I see Murdoch Murdoch waving the swastika flag saying 'we have to learn the art of national socialism!' I cringe.

Spandrell
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Alfred Woenselaer

Fascism is plenty cool. But you need the whole package. Cool uniforms, mass rallies, manly songs.

Spandrell
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Nulle Terre Sans Seigneur

I read all that as a teenager. You don't need a tradition. You need a Trump to repackage it for modern TV. Alternative media is bunk, the people who vote still watch TV.

Alfred Woenselaer
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Spandrell

Aah.

rcglinski

Did you read any of Nicolas Taleb's stuff on antifragility? The few thousand people who make up the alt right constantly talk about making the movement antifragile. If they're right and effective, the mainstream criticism is making them stronger. Two more thoughts: If you add up creativity and raw brain power the few thousand of the alt right are in the same weight class as the legacy media legion. Steve Bannon seems a bit too in love with female politicians to make all that effective of a fascist.

Spandrell
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rcglinski

Goebbels doted on his wife too.

rcglinski
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Spandrell

LOL

Thales
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Howard J. Harrison

If the Alt-Right is "loud" it's only due to the Streisand Effect.

Thales
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Spandrell

No doubt part of what keeps the whole package from gaining traction is that the US uniformed services have captured that niche -- it has actual state-of-the-art weapons and LARPs that it's not a complete tool of the Cathedral.

Karl

Well, progressives need an ideological enemy. They define themselves as being antiracist, antifascist, antiright. So if there is a real opposition to progressivism, they attack it. If there is not, they choose the least progressive from their midst and attack him as a racist, fascist, homophobe. It has happened before, repeatedly. So I don't think much can be read from progressives writing about the alt-right, except maybe that the alt-right has been noticed. Most of them are probably happy that there is the alt-right because It means that they are now save from being prosecuted by their fellow progressives for being racist, fascist, homophobes.

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Howard J. Harrison
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Thales

I like and respect Peggy Noonan (even if she would disdain to like or respect me). Admittedly, however, one finds it ironic that she who has a column in The Wall Street Journal, with a weekly audience in the hundreds of thousands, should name you and me "loud." As I recall, until the advent of the Alt Right, you and I were hardly free to speak at all. Noonan, on the other hand, was writing speeches for three U.S. presidents. I confess that writing speeches for U.S. presidents plus, in retirement, a weekly column in The Wall Street Journal, with frequent on-air appearances on television-news discussion panels, is a good job if one can get it; nor does it make Noonan "loud." It makes her talented and brilliantly successful, rather. But come. We're loud? One gathers that Noonan more or less means, it's a shame that you and I must be allowed to speak at all. Noonan's is a common sentiment—I'll not hold it harshly against her—but it's not right, is it?

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Stephen W

So basically they have the mental age of a small child.

Vendetta
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Spandrell

I've seen a few too many grandmas in InfoWars t-shirts at Tump rallies to completely discount alternative media. The margins of victory for this election ended up so close (few tens of thousands in a few key states) that there are very few groups whose efforts I would discount as having been irrelevant to Trump's victory. nRx, perhaps, if only through their own lack of effort. The alt-right certainly mattered, and the alternative media even more so. Even if they're delivering a combined 2% of Trump's votes, that's 2% he couldn't have won without.

R.
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Spandrell

How did he square doting on his wife with his philandering?