Money and happiness

Spandrell

He, a Goldsmith 23 years old, she, a Rothschild, 22. The absurdly cute couple have a lovely wedding, and strengthen the ties of their two noble families.

Well these are Jews (or are they? They look very mixed and not observant at all), but it's like the poster image of the society that Christian traditionalists want. By now, he's 31, she's 30, they have 3 lovely children. So no fertility problems here. But something's happened.

Look at her. What's with that outfit? And that face... I don't mean the natural decay of skin tone, it's that look in her face. And anyway what's that outfit really? Well it turns out that the Rothschild chick, not happy with enjoying her billions, is a "music producer". But hey, women also need to work, no? They have a right to use their talents for the good of society!  We won't go back to being forced to stay in the kitchen barefoot!!

Very well, but music producer is a bad job these days, because it gets you into contact with people like this:

this is exactly what you're thinking

This man, called "Jay Electronica", was a client of the Rothschild chick. Also [he has being stabbing her for a year](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2153789/Rothschild-heiresss-marriage-Goldsmith-scion--falls-rapper-called-Jay-Electronica.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2153789/Rothschild-heiresss-marriage-Goldsmith-scion--falls-rapper-called-Jay-Electronica.html). A rich, smart, educated, early married mother of 3. The Goldsmith dude confronted her, and slapped her in the face. Ipso facto police came and arrested the guy. The growth of justice indeed.

He being a Goldsmith dude, police let him go with a caution. He is now being comforted by his friends, who say he is "furious and heartbroken". Well, your fault for being a clueless beta. Perhaps Whiskey is right after all.

Yet being a beta with money is not a bad business after all. Well yeah your wife and mother of your children goes and fucks some black rapper. But there's always a golddigging slut eager to console you, in this case the Royal Sister, Pippa Middleton. Not my cup of tea, but she seems like a good lay.

The best thing of all is one of the comments in the Daily Mail's news article, I'll paste it as it is:

It's history repeating itself. Kate's ancestor Nica Rothschild left her husband and kids after falling in love with and running off with Jazz singer Thelonious Monk in the 1950s. See the recently published book, 'The Baroness' by Hannah Rothschild. Says it all in there. - anon, UK,3/6/2012 2:51 I saw the documentary about two or three years ago on BBC1, didn't Monk turn out to be mentally ill?. I think Kate got married far too young, she should have done all this during her twenties.

Plus ça change... Barefoot in the kitchen, I tell you.

Janon

Rosensaft's comments about white nationalism appear directed towards that phenomenon in the U.S. rather than Europe where you live. The U.S. from its inception was not a purely white country due to the importation of slaves, and even the white population was multi-ethnic well before the 1965 immigration act. That said, just from the snippet you copied, Rosensaft is hyperventilating about Brimelow's views. At least on the surface, Brimelow is a rather mild white nationalist of the immigration restrictionist variety. Rosensaft's Holocaust survivor parentage has made him paranoid As for Israel, it's a consolation prize for the Jews at best - a tiny strip of miserable desert surrounded by hostile Arabs and the sea. White Europeans are in a much better situation with enormously more land and population, even if birth rates are low. One loss in battle or political failure of will to keep out the Palestinians could sink Israel quickly. Ethnic replacement in Europe appears to be happening slowly. But it might very well be stopped in its tracks at some point. Long term demographic prediction is fraught with error potential.

Spandrell
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Janon

Your point being? I can agree that yanks had it coming because of their addiction to cheap labour. But this justifies jewish activism for race replacement how?

_B_

This Brave New World thing has not worked out well for ANYONE, has it? Not the WASP elites, not the bright assimilated minorities, not the middle class. I guess you could say it's worked out OK for the Jay Electronicas...for now. The way things are going, guys like him might end up nostalgic for their grass huts. It pisses me off to no end that we live in a culture where the most fucked up, sociopathic momentary whims of men and women are celebrated and nourished, at the expense of their souls and their children and loved ones. When you look at her face in the first picture and the second, you can see the trajectory, from a normal girl to a member of the lizard people with a dead soul. I'm telling you, the Orthodox Jews (and Mormons...I guess) have it right-they've formed their insular enclaves, buckled the hatches (like Noah's Ark!) and are waiting for this whole thing to play out. Unless you have an external moral compass and a body of dogma supporting it, this thing is very good at a kind of spiritual judo, using your own desires and talents and getting you to break youself in its service. As for the alpha/beta thing-it's horseshit. Using game to become an "alpha" (as defined by the ability to bang dozens of hot chicks) is basically like spending years of your life to become a champion Starcraft player, with the unfortunate side effect of becoming a manipulative douche. That road leads to extinction. It is very hard to go back and create a productive relationship. We were better off in a world where manliness was defined in other ways. Not that the game dudes aren't important-they have developed a serious body of useful insights into male and female psychology. But it's like Adam Smith says about the people whose sole purpose is making money-they are fools, but their foolishness is of great benefit to the rest of us.

Spandrell
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_B_

Perhaps Mormons, Orthodox Jews, Opus Dei fellas have it right; but it takes a special breed of people to obey bullshit. I wish I could myself, alas, I like my pork and my drink. Often together. Game is evil, no question about it. Game has made it possible for many man, myself included, to understand and control their women. But of course most people use it to be promiscuous, and that's bad for everyone. As for the nomenclature, I do think there's two kinds of men, those clueless about women and those who get it. Alpha/beta is a useful framework, and its definition simple. An alpha is a man whose woman doesn't sleep with Jay Electronica.

Janon

They are each one-quarter Jewish. Goldsmith's father, Sir James Goldsmith, was half-Jewish and half-French. His mother is Annabelle Vane-Tempest-Stewart, the sister of the current Marquess of Londonderry. Kate Rothschild's father, Amschel Rotschild, was half-Jewish and half-British/German. Her mother is a member of the Guinness Brewing family. I don't think that either one was raised Jewish. The late Sir James Goldsmith was raised Catholic like his mother, but I'm not sure if that carried over to his children.

_B_
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Spandrell

I can't offer comment on Opus Dei. I don't know anything about them (or much care to.) As for bullshit-"if it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid." Conversely, if you primarily define yourself in terms of bacon or beer-who are you, really? Nothing personal, you understand, just a philosophic question. And for the same reason, I can't agree with that definition of an alpha-if you frame your identity in terms of the actions of another human being (who has her own prerogatives,) you really don't have your own self. Know what I mean? That said, of course the poor guy is a beta. It's not his fault that he gets the shaft-it's crazy to ask every dude to be an alpha. That's a society of Jay Electronicas. It's a hit on our society that a dude can't be a decent and normal guy without playing dominance games and have a normal marriage. A society of leaders with no followers is impossible, but the flip side is that the followers have to have their needs provided for too. I think that the real problem I have with game is that it's a surrogate for real masculinity, and causes identity erosion in the long run.

_B_
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Janon

Neither of them are Jewish in any meaningful sense. Their ancestors sold their inheritance for a bowl of lentil soup.

Spandrell
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Janon

They sure look nicer than full blooded Ashkenazis. If only all rich and smart jews had done the same... oh well.

Simon

Of course, Christianity is bullshit. Yes, of course, it must be. I mean it makes so much sense that it is...lol...I mean, look at the alternatives. You young atheists are great at deconstructing stuff - let's see if your beliefs pass the bullshit factor, Spandrell. What do you believe in. What makes up your worldview? Let me guess. Staus-seeking, distraction, hedonism, there is no God, booyah, booyah, booyah. All glorious qualities, promoted by every thinker of note since antiquity. Not. lol. You might as well be a fucking heroin-addled faggot.

Janon

Speaking of Sir James Goldsmith, Ben's father, he was a serious alpha with mistresses galore. Annabelle was one of those mistresses before marrying him, and apparently the only reason they married was to protect the inheritance rights of their children. I have to go with Spandrell on the religious life business. It's not for everyone and can cause its own special brands of misery for the unsuitable. Pork is tasty, pizzas are better with both meat and vegetables, and life without filet mignon is a tragedy.

_B_
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Spandrell

Come on, really? You think that's honorable?

Spandrell

"you frame your identity in terms of the actions of another human being (who has her own prerogatives)" That's a very simplistic way of putting it. Also the myth of the absolute self is quite tiring really. Most people don't have their own selves, they bend like candy to be accepted by others. I'm the least social guy ever, but that's the fact: human being interact with others constantly, and need others to get what they want. What most men want is sex with young women, and today that means you need a PhD in female psychology and daily manipulation. It's very tiring, but it works. A society where a man can just be a decent chap and have his wife respecting him is simply not on the cards, and my suspicion is it never really existed. The way women were controlled before was by the very real threat of physical violence, and lack of legal resort. There was never a society with men like the postmoderns, a society of nerdy, nice, law-abiding, soft guys with normal marriages. Those kind of guys, the few that there were in the past, got cheated on too.

Janon

"Their ancestors sold their inheritance for a bowl of lentil soup." That would be less ridiculous, B, if the Jewish religion were actually based on truth. There probably isn't a God, and even if there is, He probably doesn't closely resemble the biblical conception.

Spandrell
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Spandrell

I think the assimilation of the Ashkenazis would have been a good thing for European Civilisation. I'm not jewish so that is what I care about.

Spandrell
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Janon

Yes it's a funny thing that alpha's children tend to be of the other extreme. Uber alphas tend to marry (or impregnate) feminine women, so the kid loses the masculine edge. I guess.

Spandrell
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Simon

This is really unfair, and you are distorting what I meant. Hell I am the one making fun of the status seeking distracted hedonists. Booyah. If you want to curse me into the embrace of the Church, you might as well send me an email. Or you could leave a real address when you comment.

_B_
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Spandrell

Since my Army days, I have been a firm believer in the KISS principle ("Keep It Simple, Stupid.") Tiring or not, we all have a self and a soul. This is burdensome, and many actively work to discard this burden by lowering themselves to the level of animals, and feel hatred towards anyone and anything which attempts to remind them that they are something more. It is not surprising that our society is built on exploiting this tendency and getting people to break themselves in service to their own desires and weaknesses. This makes them much easier to control and to sell consumer goods to them. Being smart, by the way, is not a source of immunity against this machine-it is a source of weakness, a vulnerability. There is nothing that smart people love more than being reminded of their intellectual superiority, and it is very easy to get them to swallow all kinds of poison if you coat it with this kind of flattery. As for sex with young women-this is something that most men want until they have it. But I can tell you this-the last three girls I dated were sweet, intelligent, young and good looking (guys would break their necks everywhere we went, until I gave them the "hey, dude" smirk-very tiresome.) And they were deeply in love with me. Once you figure out that you can pull women of arbitrary quality at will and command their feelings, now what? Unless you are basically animalistic (hi, Jay Electronica!) you will have an empty feeling left inside. Man does not live by bread alone, nor by pussy.

Janon

It doesn't justify "Jewish activism for race replacement," but that activism is a characteristic of the Jewish organizations more than it is a characteristic of American Jews. About 50% of American Jews are in favor of enforcement against illegal immigration according to this recent survey: http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/national/curve\_ball\_jewish\_leaders\_immigration That's not overwhelming immigration limitation sentiment, but it's far from the impression that the WN's try to propagate that every Jew supports an immigration-based conspiracy against them. My family falls in the 50% of American Jews in favor of enforcement against illegal immigration, and we are strongly against race replacement. Unfortunately, we don't have any say in who leads the pro-immigration Jewish organizations. I'm not even sure who serves on their boards, but I suspect that they have deep enough pockets not to need my money. After all, they continue to exist despite the fact that I've never donated so much as one penny.

Spandrell
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_B_

A veteran, alpha, reactionary, religious Jew. You sure are something. Not finding much to disagree, I've also been there, done that. Got tired too. Quite happy at present. But why are you serial dating anyway? Doesn't Hashem command you to marry and procreate?

_B_
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Spandrell

European civilization has its own lifeblood and trajectory, as does every other. If nothing else, it is based on Christianity, which was based on the Bible, which says that those who bless the Jews will be blessed and those who curse them will be cursed. If you care to notice, Europe has really taken a swan dive since its constituents embraced a Final Solution (whether via einsatzgruppen or yevsektziya.) As for assimilation-you might notice that the Jews who caused massive problems over the last 150 years were the ones who shared your goal of assimilation. Marx, Trotsky...they were not Talmudic scholars.)